FT/TT meeting minutes March 3rd 2011

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1. General
   • Moderator: Mario
   • Participants: Enrique Ruibal (left meeting), Mario Calderon, Victor Perez, Karsten Thiemann, Tobias Schoeneberg, Teo Sarca, Mike Judd (left meeting), Mike McKay (new member)
2. Mike McKay as new Functional Team member
   • Mike McKay (Ottawa, Canada) was invited to join the Functional Team.
   • He presented himself, see CV , indicating his willingness to cooperate.
   • Mike was elected unanimously as a new member of the Functional Team.
   • He becomes the newest team member after the election of Enrique Ruibal (Hermosillo, Mexico).
   • The FT/TT members welcomed Mike; Mike thanked for the election.
3. ADempiere Server Test
   • There is already a Virtual Server running on an Amazon server, set up by Victor.
   • A site is needed where all testers can log in to.
   • Adempiere eV will be asked if there is a spare room in the newly purchased server.
4. Testing framework evaluation status
   • Members of the functional team tested three different environments: Selenium, Fitnesse, and Sahi. Also, the experiences by red1 were taken into account.
   • Selenium
     • the desirable option, because it is the standard for Ajax apps.
     • Issue: Firefox can't get the focus for buttons for Adempiere ZK. Safari and Chrome work OK.
     • It is not a Selenium issue, but Adempiere's, because tests with other apps were positive.
     • It still will be tested if there is a way to circumvent the issue.
   • Fitnesse
     • tester needs to know both SQL and business processes. A functional tester lacks of SQL knowledge.
   • Sahi
     • For more information, see
     • Good for UI tests.
     • Was already considered by former PMC
     • It seems pretty straight forward: you can record your session, create a script with assertions automatically and run the test.
     • No need to have any SQL or DB knowledge.
   • After a discussion, it was voted to start with Sahi for WebUI test.
   • Later we can see how/if other tools are used.
   • Implementation steps:
     • 1.- Get official server
     • 2.- Install ubuntu, integration tools, ADempiere
     • 3.- Create a wiki tutorial or instructive how any funcional consultan can create a funcional script using Sahi like in
     • 4.- Recollect the Funcional Tests for integration into ADempiere Test Suite. A starting approach can be found here.
     • 5.- Bug fixing would require a Sahi test. This way the tester / functional consultant can replicate, evaluate the patch and error.
     • 6.- Use the ADempiere Test Suite to release the next version stable
   • this way the acceptance of a bug would be automated.
   • Also the definition of a release as "stable" would take place after the successful execution of scripts.
5. Patches on Mercurial trunk
   • As decided on last meeting, the patches will be applied to the Mercurial trunk ASAP.
6. PMC in Adempiere wiki
   • It is desirable that community members and anybody who accesses the ADempiere site find easily information related to the PMC.
   • Passed over to CC next meeting
7. Next Meeting
   • Thursday, March 10th, 2011
   • 15 hours GMT
   • Moderator: Mike Judd