FT/TT meeting minutes January 16th 2012

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Minutes

  1. General
    • Moderator: Mario Calderon
    • Participants: Karsten Thiemann, Teo Sarca, Michael McKay, Victor Perez, Mike Judd, Ramiro Vergara, Tobias Schöneberg, Colin Rooney, Mark Ostermann
    • Date/ Time: Jan 16th 2012/ 15:00h - 17:00h GMT
  2. Roadmap to new release
    • Up to now, Feature Requests are documented in http://www.adempiere.com/Category:Feature_Request_-_In_Progress
    • Last Release was concentrated on Bug Fixes and stabilization; the next release will be focused on functionality enhancements.
    • New Release will be tagged 3.8.
    • Examples of possible new functionality
    • Steps to get a list of features:
      • Call the community in order to get contributions
      • Review each functionality and decide on adequacy to get integrated to trunk
      • Based on this feature list a roadmap will be built
    • FR Management
      • FT/TT active in getting sponsoring and getting FR done.
      • Victor will post the announcement
  3. Feature request discussion
  4. Miscellaneous
    • none

Log

Following is the meeting log, starting after TT/FT decided to record and publish the whole meeting log in future

Monday, January 16, 2012
[9:10:55 AM] Karsten Thiemann: hi
[9:12:08 AM] Ramiro Vergara: hi karsten
[9:12:22 AM] Mario Calderón: hello everybody!
[9:14:37 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: hi
[9:15:16 AM] Sarca, Teo: hi all
[9:15:22 AM] Sarca, Teo: and happy new year!
[9:15:29 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: i'm debuggin an important problem for a customer right now, so i might not be "real-time"-responsive
[9:16:26 AM] Mark Ostermann: hello everybody
[9:17:40 AM] Mario Calderón: should we wait a couple of minutes more (academical time)?
[9:18:46 AM] Karsten Thiemann: victor wrote that he will attend
[9:18:54 AM] Ramiro Vergara: yes he did
[9:22:37 AM] Mario Calderón: to start with, let's orginize the meeting.
I can be the secretary, though I will have to leave in about 65 minutes.
[9:22:46 AM] Karsten Thiemann: I think we should start now
[9:22:51 AM] Mario Calderón: somebody else can become moderator
[9:23:13 AM] Karsten Thiemann: not much to moderate - right?
[9:23:17 AM] Karsten Thiemann: what about our agenda?
[9:23:32 AM] Mario Calderón: this is the second point, after the moderator
[9:23:42 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i can be moderator then
[9:23:47 AM] Ramiro Vergara: :)
[9:23:58 AM] Karsten Thiemann: fine :)
[9:24:09 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i believe we anted to discuss roadmap to 3.8?
[9:24:09 AM] Mario Calderón: you can help me to write the minutes Ramiro
[9:24:13 AM] Ramiro Vergara: wanted
[9:24:28 AM] Ramiro Vergara: sure
[9:24:32 AM] Michael Judd: hi
[9:24:37 AM] Ramiro Vergara: hi mike
[9:24:45 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Agenda
[9:24:57 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 1. Discussion on roadmap to 3.8
[9:25:16 AM] Ramiro Vergara: any other points?
[9:26:04 AM] Mario Calderón: hi Mike. From my side, it's the only agenda point.
[9:26:11 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[9:26:22 AM] Karsten Thiemann: hi Colin
[9:26:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2. Miscellaneous, if any
[9:26:33 AM] Colin Rooney: hi all - just looking in to say hello
[9:26:47 AM] Mark Ostermann: hi colin
[9:26:50 AM] Colin Rooney: and when I saw the question for points remembered
[9:27:06 AM] Mario Calderón: hi Colin
[9:27:12 AM] Colin Rooney: someone in the forums asked for their new functionality to be reviewed
[9:27:22 AM] Colin Rooney: it was posted that it would be added to the TT/FT agenda
[9:27:26 AM] Karsten Thiemann: http://www.adempiere.com/FR3471930_Allow_consolidation_of_PO_from_Req_with_different_dates
[9:27:26 AM] Mario Calderón: It was silvano, wasn't it?
[9:27:28 AM] Colin Rooney: just a reminder
[9:27:45 AM] Colin Rooney: yes, Karsten exactly the one
[9:27:53 AM] Karsten Thiemann: right - and I guess that's part of a road to 3.8
[9:28:01 AM] Karsten Thiemann: http://www.adempiere.com/Category:Feature_Request_-_In_Progress
[9:28:08 AM] Colin Rooney: ah ok - sorry
[9:28:20 AM] Karsten Thiemann: no Colin - you were right
[9:28:55 AM] Ramiro Vergara:  Agenda 1. Discussion on roadmap to 3.8
2. Silvano request
[9:29:03 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3. Miscellaneous if any
[9:29:55 AM] Karsten Thiemann: I think we need to include the other feature request as well
[9:30:01 AM] Mario Calderón: agree
[9:30:43 AM] Ramiro Vergara: what other feature request?
[9:31:04 AM] Mario Calderón: http://www.adempiere.com/Category:Feature_Request_-_In_Progress
[9:31:39 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[9:31:53 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Agenda 
1. Discussion on roadmap to 3.8
2. Feature request discussion
3. Miscellaneous if any
[9:32:13 AM] Karsten Thiemann: ok
[9:32:15 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ready?
[9:32:20 AM] Mario Calderón: (y)
[9:32:24 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[9:32:32 AM] Mark Ostermann: ok
[9:32:35 AM] Michael Judd: (y)
[9:32:48 AM] Ramiro Vergara: lets start
[9:32:51 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 1. Discussion on roadmap to 3.8
[9:33:00 AM] Ramiro Vergara: any comments ideas?
[9:33:07 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i do have one
[9:33:10 AM] Ramiro Vergara: :)
[9:34:09 AM] Michael Judd: I was looking for the task list to release but I'm not sure this is avaialble anymore - does anyone know where it is ?
[9:34:29 AM] Ramiro Vergara: while we look for that
[9:34:33 AM] Michael Judd: Should the page: http://www.adempiere.com/Road_Map be updated for 3.8 ?
[9:34:53 AM] Ramiro Vergara: let me open with my comments on 3.8
[9:35:34 AM] Karsten Thiemann: @Michael - yes it should
[9:35:39 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3.7 was mostly focused on fixing bugs that were resolved in other branches
[9:36:13 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and that was fine because would improve stability of adempiere
[9:36:33 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: hi
[9:36:36 AM] Michael Judd: Are all the bug fixes logged in the tracker - assume so ?  If so - I can update the roadmap for 3.7.0
[9:36:46 AM] Mark Ostermann: hi victor
[9:36:47 AM] Ramiro Vergara: however, adempiere has not had a release focused in enhancing functionality in years
[9:36:59 AM] Michael Judd: hi victor
[9:37:29 AM] Michael Judd: @Ramiro - it may be worthwhile releasing new functionality in a new feature enhancement release - but declare as a beta ?
[9:37:41 AM] Ramiro Vergara: there are many enhancements around that could be brought into the trunk with a relative minor effort and will enrich greatly ADempiere functionality
[9:37:48 AM] Michael Judd: and then move to stabilisation - or should that occur in a branch ?
[9:38:05 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: hi guys , happy new year
[9:38:21 AM] Ramiro Vergara: yes, it could be a beta phase and subsequent stabilization phase
[9:38:40 AM] Mario Calderón: @Mike: thanks to Mercurial, we can do it on a new Branch and then migrate Changesets to development for testing and to Release for publishing
[9:39:56 AM] Mario Calderón: can we enumerate the Functionality to be included?
[9:40:10 AM] Ramiro Vergara: the byrpoduct benefit besides enhancing adempiere functionaliyty
[9:40:25 AM] Ramiro Vergara: is that we will differentiate from other non official branches
[9:40:34 AM] Ramiro Vergara: byproduct
[9:41:14 AM] Ramiro Vergara: the suggestion is that the FT/TT prepares a call for functionality and invite community members and implementor companies to collaborate
[9:41:32 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I think that the procedure for new fuctionality are disaign
[9:43:18 AM] Ramiro Vergara: for instance, we developed an automatic bank conciliation functionality that i know many people would love to have
[9:43:20 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: the new features should go in feature branch
[9:43:49 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so the the big work is that the funcional team need vevaluate and aprovate th fuctionality
[9:43:56 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: if this is ok then we can include
[9:44:19 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: @victor: agree
[9:44:20 AM] Mario Calderón: agree Victor
[9:44:34 AM] Michael Judd: (y)
[9:44:45 AM] Mario Calderón: Ramiro has suggested to make a call to the community
[9:44:49 AM] Mario Calderón: a good idea
[9:45:01 AM] Mario Calderón: we also know of functionality
[9:45:06 AM] Sarca, Teo: agree
[9:45:22 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so this are my suggestion steps:
[9:45:34 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 1.- call the community for get your contributtions
[9:47:33 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[9:47:53 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 2.- review each functionality and before the analisys
[9:48:08 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: we can take the decision to include or not
[9:48:21 AM] Ramiro Vergara: now i have a FR related comment that has to do with that victor
[9:48:43 AM] Ramiro Vergara: the items on the FR should be included in that analysis
[9:49:21 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and if they are approved they should be posted as FR requiring development/funding
[9:49:46 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 3.- based in this feature list we can build the roadmap
[9:50:11 AM] Mario Calderón: to name a few functionalities I know are relatively easy to integratte:
OFB: Ramiro's functionalities, 
e-vevolution( Smart Browser to name one), 
Adaxa
  Recursive Deletion of Entities (e.g. Orders). Good for DB clearing.
  Print Format copy
  Alert on Field-input (one Message). Defined in BP
  Report cube
  Graphics on one window
  Payment-Allocation improvements
  Hashed-Password (in User-Window)
  Initial Client Setup (including. tacx configuration)

Metas:
- windows improvemnts with web services

to name just a few
[9:50:27 AM] Michael Judd: is there a template to assess the FR from a technical and function perspective?  I beleive it was proposed for the FT/TT to review each FR?
[9:51:06 AM] Mario Calderón: I think there is not a template Mike, just  a description of how to document it
[9:51:19 AM] Michael Judd: ok
[9:51:20 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 4.-when the we include the new features then we need create de documentation and example for new fuctionality and release the new versión
[9:51:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: some of those FR may be funded by ADeV or other entities
[9:52:06 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: this should be include in the wiki page documentation that was made to support the feature
[9:52:40 AM] Mario Calderón: so , concrete suggestions to vote?
[9:52:43 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: http://www.adempiere.com/Category:Feature_Request_-_In_Progress
[9:52:48 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: here exit a example
[9:53:00 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok, in summary the acll for functionality should explain the points victor is raising
[9:53:04 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so I think that now we need cordinate the implementor and inlude all improves
[9:53:20 AM] Ramiro Vergara: let me wrap up victor
[9:53:40 AM] Ramiro Vergara: victor?
[9:53:46 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so in this moment I think that best way to get new fuctionality or improves is from implementors , ADAXA, Metas, e-Evolution, OFB, etc
[9:53:54 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[9:53:55 AM] Ramiro Vergara: let me wrap up
[9:54:46 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3.8 will be a release mostly focused on functionality
[9:55:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: FT/TT will write a "Call for Functionaly enhancements" in the forums
[9:55:52 AM] Ramiro Vergara: in the call we will explain the subsequent activities required to get the enhancements to the trunk
[9:56:14 AM] Ramiro Vergara: do we agree with this summary?
[9:56:20 AM] Ramiro Vergara: votes pplease
[9:56:30 AM] Sarca, Teo: +1
[9:56:31 AM] Karsten Thiemann: yes +1
[9:56:33 AM] Mario Calderón: +1 from my side
[9:56:43 AM] Michael Judd: (y) +1
[9:56:56 AM] Ramiro Vergara: +1
[9:57:09 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Victor?
[9:57:09 AM] Mario Calderón: who will be in charge of issuing the call and of maintaning the page?
[9:57:11 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: why 3.8
[9:57:18 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: what will be 3.7
[9:57:30 AM] Michael Judd: or what about 4.0 ?
[9:57:36 AM] Michael McKay: Hi Guys - happy new year.  +1 on the summary
[9:57:40 AM] Karsten Thiemann: victor - we already have 3.7
[9:57:46 AM] Mario Calderón: hi Mike! same to you
[9:57:49 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3.7 is released victor
[9:58:04 AM] Karsten Thiemann: you did it :)
[9:58:13 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: ok the the next version will be a big version
[9:58:16 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and 4.0 , IMHO, should be reserved for something even bigger
[9:58:26 AM] Ramiro Vergara: such as architectural changes
[9:58:40 AM] Karsten Thiemann: what about 20.12  ;)
[9:58:51 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Mayan release?
[9:58:53 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I told about the 3.7.1,2,3,4
[9:58:55 AM] Karsten Thiemann: I think 3.8 is fine
[9:58:58 AM] Mario Calderón: so, this release would be 3.8?
Or what do you suggest victor?
[9:59:07 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: but if we then can release 3.8 is ok for me
[9:59:12 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: nop problem
[9:59:20 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: +1
[9:59:23 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[9:59:27 AM] Ramiro Vergara: approved
[9:59:32 AM] Karsten Thiemann: I think the number is not the most important thing..
[9:59:38 AM] Ramiro Vergara: a candidate to write the call?
[10:00:13 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Victor?
[10:00:44 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i suggest Victor
[10:00:46 AM] Ramiro Vergara: :)
[10:01:30 AM] Colin Rooney: I think victors proposal might have merit. in that ...
[10:01:48 AM] Mario Calderón: +1
[10:01:53 AM] Colin Rooney: the 3.8 would be a typical big bang approach -  which is great when you have resources
[10:02:08 AM] Ramiro Vergara: no problem
[10:02:13 AM] Colin Rooney: but you might consider a more agile approach whjich is all the fashion now :)
[10:02:46 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3.7.1, 2, 3, 4 and at the end when stable 3.8
[10:02:56 AM] Colin Rooney: you create your backlog and every few weeks realease a 3,71, 3.7.2, 3.7.3 etc
[10:02:58 AM] Ramiro Vergara: that is fine
[10:02:59 AM] Colin Rooney: as beta
[10:03:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Victor can explain that
[10:03:20 AM] Colin Rooney: then 3.8 would be the move from beta to live of a bunch of beta funtionality
[10:03:28 AM] Colin Rooney: tha tway you get your big bang release
[10:03:30 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[10:03:33 AM] Michael McKay: (Stepping away - back in 30 minutes.  Will catch up on return.)
[10:03:38 AM] Ramiro Vergara: lets move on if we may
[10:03:43 AM] Colin Rooney: plus you have a lighter more agile and frequent release stratgey
[10:03:55 AM] Colin Rooney: which is how I understood from Victor?
[10:04:00 AM] Mario Calderón: bye Mike
[10:04:25 AM] Michael Judd: do we have resources to do more frequent releases ? i.e. monthly ?
[10:04:54 AM] Colin Rooney: well it's just the latest branch with some specific NEW functionality added
[10:05:08 AM] Colin Rooney: it might be 1 new functionality - or more than 1 but not many
[10:05:13 AM] Colin Rooney: ?
[10:05:20 AM] Ramiro Vergara: agree
[10:05:38 AM] Colin Rooney: the whole agile idea is for it to be light in terms of resource requirements
[10:05:48 AM] Mario Calderón: @Mike: I don't think we can do monthly releases right now, due to lack of resources.
[10:06:01 AM] Colin Rooney: no problem - just a thought
[10:06:17 AM] Ramiro Vergara: but we will go agile 3.7.1, 2 etc as suggested by victor and colin
[10:06:19 AM] Karsten Thiemann: @Michael - no
[10:06:57 AM] Mario Calderón: I think we can try to move more community members than last time, by being more active asking
[10:07:29 AM] Ramiro Vergara: besides that we will expect more help from implementors in this process
[10:07:47 AM] Mario Calderón: @Ramiro: right
[10:07:54 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[10:08:18 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i believe we can move on to 2. Feature request discussion
[10:08:58 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i believe we should integrate how to handle FR into this idea of functionality enhancements we are discussing today
[10:09:13 AM] Ramiro Vergara: the FR should be reviewed by FT
[10:09:30 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and then listed as FR waiting for sponsoring
[10:10:04 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and we should talk to ADeV or others to look for funding/help on getting those FR done
[10:10:20 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: now Teo and me propouse switch  from sf trcker to jira
[10:10:33 AM] Karsten Thiemann: @Ramiro: I don't think that we always need a special sponsoring. If the code and the documentation is good we can just integrate them - right?
[10:11:00 AM] Ramiro Vergara: @Karten, that is why i said sponsoring/help
[10:11:04 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I think that it is ok , because jira allow show the automatic roadmap based in the traker open
[10:11:34 AM] Mario Calderón: as I seem for this time the sponsoring would be the companies supplying the functionality! ;)
[10:11:59 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: the I think that we need work in migrate the old sf tracker to jira
[10:12:03 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: @Karsten: agree. but a special state "looking for sponsoring" is imho also a good idea. e.g. philip gosweiler made an improvement regarding postal, but it's only do for swing right now...
[10:12:04 AM] Ramiro Vergara: advantage is that community members see a clear procedure to add / deny those FR and then get them done supported by FT/TT
[10:12:13 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: and the road map will show in automatic
[10:12:23 AM] Mario Calderón: what is this about Jira Victor, can you explain how it would replace the actual way?
[10:13:52 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: jira is a tracker system
[10:14:12 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: where we would report the features and bug tracker
[10:15:25 AM] Mario Calderón: ..and you suggest to switch to Jira with the new release?
[10:15:45 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: yes I think it is good
[10:16:17 AM] Mario Calderón: would you mention and explain it on the post?
[10:16:31 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: Teo install jira
[10:16:51 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: installed jira
[10:17:19 AM] Mario Calderón: so as I understand, we should vote for switching to Jira now?
[10:17:36 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and FR management as discussed....
[10:17:39 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: and ask the Atlassian for license
[10:17:59 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: the give a license because we work with open source proyect
[10:18:09 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: then teo
[10:18:32 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: we might use jira to management the release, roadmap , trackers
[10:18:51 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: this is a good example based in spring envirotment developement
[10:18:53 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: https://jira.springsource.org/browse/SPR
[10:19:19 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: he are https://jira.springsource.org/browse/SPR#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aroadmap-panel
[10:19:27 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: road map create based on tracker
[10:19:38 AM] Mario Calderón: @Ramiro: wrap up and vote?
[10:19:47 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[10:20:01 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2 votes please
[10:20:45 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2.a approved FR Managements as discussed above (FT/TT aactive in getting sponsoring and getting FR done)
[10:21:01 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2. move from SF to JJira for tracker management
[10:21:06 AM] Ramiro Vergara: sorry
[10:21:09 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2.b
[10:21:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: votes please
[10:21:28 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2.a and 2.b
[10:21:46 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 2.c we need voluters to migrate of old tracker from sf to jira tracker
[10:21:48 AM] Mario Calderón: 2a: +1
2b: +1
[10:22:10 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: this should be a good work and allow define a list active the tracker list
[10:22:28 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2.a +1 ; 2.b +1
[10:22:43 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: because the current sf list now is incomplete or not updated
[10:22:57 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I not know if all open issue are replicate and are active
[10:22:58 AM] Karsten Thiemann: both +1 (and sorry but I got to go now)
[10:23:06 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: [17:08:20] Victor Perez Juarez: 2.c we need voluters to migrate of old tracker from sf to jira tracker

<<< can't we do this step-by-step? i mean, make sure that there are no new trackers in SF, and create a jira-tracker for an SF-tracker, whener we touch an SF-tracker?
[10:23:13 AM] Mario Calderón: dear all, I have to leave right now.
I will publish the minutes and the resume today, after consultation with the moderator.
[10:23:17 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: 2.{a,b} +1
[10:23:31 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: +1 for all points
[10:23:32 AM] Mark Ostermann: +1 fror both (a+b)
[10:23:33 AM] Mario Calderón: Tobi, linear algebra!!
[10:23:42 AM] Ramiro Vergara: we are done mario anyway
[10:23:44 AM] Michael Judd: 2a+b (y) +1
[10:24:06 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: 2.[^c-z]+ ;-)
[10:24:33 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: @Tobias , I think that we need now activate jira for new issues
[10:24:39 AM] Mario Calderón: this is a regular expression...
[10:24:47 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok
[10:24:56 AM] Ramiro Vergara:  i believe the 3 proposal are approved
[10:25:01 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: but anyway we need clean current tracker list, because I think not are update
[10:25:05 AM] Ramiro Vergara: mario will write minutes, i will help
[10:25:06 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: @Victor: ok
[10:25:15 AM] Ramiro Vergara: victor will write call, i will translate
[10:25:20 AM] Michael Judd: what's the process for cleaning?  Does it require a line by line analysis ?
[10:25:26 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: it have not control
[10:25:38 AM] Sarca, Teo: +1
[10:26:09 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so we can take as excuse to clean the tracker list  :-)
[10:26:34 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: @Mike I think that is simple
[10:27:40 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: we need review the comment tracker and validate if  this can be replicate , if this is replicate then we can create the tracker new in jira , and copy the comments and adds new comment from your test
[10:28:14 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: we need give the priority issue , this way we should include the fix for next release if is severe issue
[10:29:01 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: when we create the new jira tracker we can close the sf tracker and add the url for jira tracker link
[10:29:04 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: it is my idea
[10:29:15 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: but anyother good idea is welcome
[10:29:45 AM] Michael Judd: ok - need to head out but I understand and would like to help.  I think we could define the severity levels first before assessing the issues in the new jira.
[10:29:57 AM] Michael Judd: will be back a little later in case the discussion continues
[10:30:18 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I would document the step in a wiki
[10:30:36 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: and make reference some videos that explaint the use the jira
[10:30:43 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: this way other can following
[10:30:54 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok, i believe we can close the formal meeting here
[10:30:59 AM] Ramiro Vergara: thanks to all
[10:32:05 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: Ramiro can please give a summary please
[10:33:16 AM] Mark Ostermann: thanks
[10:33:29 AM] Colin Rooney: bye all
[10:33:43 AM] Mark Ostermann: bye. cu
[10:34:23 AM] Sarca, Teo: bye bye
[10:42:43 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: bye
[10:53:42 AM] Michael Judd: bye