FT/TT meeting minutes January 16th 2012
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Minutes
- General
- Moderator: Mario Calderon
- Participants: Karsten Thiemann, Teo Sarca, Michael McKay, Victor Perez, Mike Judd, Ramiro Vergara, Tobias Schöneberg, Colin Rooney, Mark Ostermann
- Date/ Time: Jan 16th 2012/ 15:00h - 17:00h GMT
- Roadmap to new release
- Up to now, Feature Requests are documented in http://www.adempiere.com/Category:Feature_Request_-_In_Progress
- Last Release was concentrated on Bug Fixes and stabilization; the next release will be focused on functionality enhancements.
- New Release will be tagged 3.8.
- Examples of possible new functionality
- The ones documented in http://www.adempiere.com/Category:Feature_Request_-_In_Progress
- Payment Order (OFB)
- Automatic Bank conciliation (OFB)
- Smart Browser (to name one from e-evolution)
- Recursive Deletion of Entities (e.g. Orders). Good for DB clearing.
- Print Format copy (Adaxa)
- Message alert on Field-input (Adaxa)
- Report cube (Adaxa)
- Graphics on one window (Adaxa)
- Payment-Allocation improvements (Adaxa)
- Hashed-Password (in User-Window) (Adaxa)
- Manufacturing Light(ML) integration approach (Adaxa) - https://sourceforge.net/projects/adempiere/forums/forum/610546/topic/4859142
- Initial Client Setup (including. tax configuration) (Adaxa)
- Windows improvemnts with web services (Metas)
- Steps to get a list of features:
- Call the community in order to get contributions
- Review each functionality and decide on adequacy to get integrated to trunk
- Based on this feature list a roadmap will be built
- FR Management
- FT/TT active in getting sponsoring and getting FR done.
- Victor will post the announcement
- Feature request discussion
- Bug/Feature Request Trackers: it was decide to switch from SF Tracker to Jira (https://adempiere.atlassian.net)
- Teo installed Jira for ADempiere (http://sourceforge.net/projects/adempiere/forums/forum/610546/topic/4930180)
- We need work in migrate the old SF tracker to jira
- Examples of Jira:
- https://jira.springsource.org/browse/SPR
- https://jira.springsource.org/browse/SPR#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aroadmap-panel
- Help from community members is needed for migration from SF tracker to Jira and updating all trackers.
- Miscellaneous
- none
Log
Following is the meeting log, starting after TT/FT decided to record and publish the whole meeting log in future
Monday, January 16, 2012 [9:10:55 AM] Karsten Thiemann: hi [9:12:08 AM] Ramiro Vergara: hi karsten [9:12:22 AM] Mario Calderón: hello everybody! [9:14:37 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: hi [9:15:16 AM] Sarca, Teo: hi all [9:15:22 AM] Sarca, Teo: and happy new year! [9:15:29 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: i'm debuggin an important problem for a customer right now, so i might not be "real-time"-responsive [9:16:26 AM] Mark Ostermann: hello everybody [9:17:40 AM] Mario Calderón: should we wait a couple of minutes more (academical time)? [9:18:46 AM] Karsten Thiemann: victor wrote that he will attend [9:18:54 AM] Ramiro Vergara: yes he did [9:22:37 AM] Mario Calderón: to start with, let's orginize the meeting. I can be the secretary, though I will have to leave in about 65 minutes. [9:22:46 AM] Karsten Thiemann: I think we should start now [9:22:51 AM] Mario Calderón: somebody else can become moderator [9:23:13 AM] Karsten Thiemann: not much to moderate - right? [9:23:17 AM] Karsten Thiemann: what about our agenda? [9:23:32 AM] Mario Calderón: this is the second point, after the moderator [9:23:42 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i can be moderator then [9:23:47 AM] Ramiro Vergara: :) [9:23:58 AM] Karsten Thiemann: fine :) [9:24:09 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i believe we anted to discuss roadmap to 3.8? [9:24:09 AM] Mario Calderón: you can help me to write the minutes Ramiro [9:24:13 AM] Ramiro Vergara: wanted [9:24:28 AM] Ramiro Vergara: sure [9:24:32 AM] Michael Judd: hi [9:24:37 AM] Ramiro Vergara: hi mike [9:24:45 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Agenda [9:24:57 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 1. Discussion on roadmap to 3.8 [9:25:16 AM] Ramiro Vergara: any other points? [9:26:04 AM] Mario Calderón: hi Mike. From my side, it's the only agenda point. [9:26:11 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [9:26:22 AM] Karsten Thiemann: hi Colin [9:26:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2. Miscellaneous, if any [9:26:33 AM] Colin Rooney: hi all - just looking in to say hello [9:26:47 AM] Mark Ostermann: hi colin [9:26:50 AM] Colin Rooney: and when I saw the question for points remembered [9:27:06 AM] Mario Calderón: hi Colin [9:27:12 AM] Colin Rooney: someone in the forums asked for their new functionality to be reviewed [9:27:22 AM] Colin Rooney: it was posted that it would be added to the TT/FT agenda [9:27:26 AM] Karsten Thiemann: http://www.adempiere.com/FR3471930_Allow_consolidation_of_PO_from_Req_with_different_dates [9:27:26 AM] Mario Calderón: It was silvano, wasn't it? [9:27:28 AM] Colin Rooney: just a reminder [9:27:45 AM] Colin Rooney: yes, Karsten exactly the one [9:27:53 AM] Karsten Thiemann: right - and I guess that's part of a road to 3.8 [9:28:01 AM] Karsten Thiemann: http://www.adempiere.com/Category:Feature_Request_-_In_Progress [9:28:08 AM] Colin Rooney: ah ok - sorry [9:28:20 AM] Karsten Thiemann: no Colin - you were right [9:28:55 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Agenda 1. Discussion on roadmap to 3.8 2. Silvano request [9:29:03 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3. Miscellaneous if any [9:29:55 AM] Karsten Thiemann: I think we need to include the other feature request as well [9:30:01 AM] Mario Calderón: agree [9:30:43 AM] Ramiro Vergara: what other feature request? [9:31:04 AM] Mario Calderón: http://www.adempiere.com/Category:Feature_Request_-_In_Progress [9:31:39 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [9:31:53 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Agenda 1. Discussion on roadmap to 3.8 2. Feature request discussion 3. Miscellaneous if any [9:32:13 AM] Karsten Thiemann: ok [9:32:15 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ready? [9:32:20 AM] Mario Calderón: (y) [9:32:24 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [9:32:32 AM] Mark Ostermann: ok [9:32:35 AM] Michael Judd: (y) [9:32:48 AM] Ramiro Vergara: lets start [9:32:51 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 1. Discussion on roadmap to 3.8 [9:33:00 AM] Ramiro Vergara: any comments ideas? [9:33:07 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i do have one [9:33:10 AM] Ramiro Vergara: :) [9:34:09 AM] Michael Judd: I was looking for the task list to release but I'm not sure this is avaialble anymore - does anyone know where it is ? [9:34:29 AM] Ramiro Vergara: while we look for that [9:34:33 AM] Michael Judd: Should the page: http://www.adempiere.com/Road_Map be updated for 3.8 ? [9:34:53 AM] Ramiro Vergara: let me open with my comments on 3.8 [9:35:34 AM] Karsten Thiemann: @Michael - yes it should [9:35:39 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3.7 was mostly focused on fixing bugs that were resolved in other branches [9:36:13 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and that was fine because would improve stability of adempiere [9:36:33 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: hi [9:36:36 AM] Michael Judd: Are all the bug fixes logged in the tracker - assume so ? If so - I can update the roadmap for 3.7.0 [9:36:46 AM] Mark Ostermann: hi victor [9:36:47 AM] Ramiro Vergara: however, adempiere has not had a release focused in enhancing functionality in years [9:36:59 AM] Michael Judd: hi victor [9:37:29 AM] Michael Judd: @Ramiro - it may be worthwhile releasing new functionality in a new feature enhancement release - but declare as a beta ? [9:37:41 AM] Ramiro Vergara: there are many enhancements around that could be brought into the trunk with a relative minor effort and will enrich greatly ADempiere functionality [9:37:48 AM] Michael Judd: and then move to stabilisation - or should that occur in a branch ? [9:38:05 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: hi guys , happy new year [9:38:21 AM] Ramiro Vergara: yes, it could be a beta phase and subsequent stabilization phase [9:38:40 AM] Mario Calderón: @Mike: thanks to Mercurial, we can do it on a new Branch and then migrate Changesets to development for testing and to Release for publishing [9:39:56 AM] Mario Calderón: can we enumerate the Functionality to be included? [9:40:10 AM] Ramiro Vergara: the byrpoduct benefit besides enhancing adempiere functionaliyty [9:40:25 AM] Ramiro Vergara: is that we will differentiate from other non official branches [9:40:34 AM] Ramiro Vergara: byproduct [9:41:14 AM] Ramiro Vergara: the suggestion is that the FT/TT prepares a call for functionality and invite community members and implementor companies to collaborate [9:41:32 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I think that the procedure for new fuctionality are disaign [9:43:18 AM] Ramiro Vergara: for instance, we developed an automatic bank conciliation functionality that i know many people would love to have [9:43:20 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: the new features should go in feature branch [9:43:49 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so the the big work is that the funcional team need vevaluate and aprovate th fuctionality [9:43:56 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: if this is ok then we can include [9:44:19 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: @victor: agree [9:44:20 AM] Mario Calderón: agree Victor [9:44:34 AM] Michael Judd: (y) [9:44:45 AM] Mario Calderón: Ramiro has suggested to make a call to the community [9:44:49 AM] Mario Calderón: a good idea [9:45:01 AM] Mario Calderón: we also know of functionality [9:45:06 AM] Sarca, Teo: agree [9:45:22 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so this are my suggestion steps: [9:45:34 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 1.- call the community for get your contributtions [9:47:33 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [9:47:53 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 2.- review each functionality and before the analisys [9:48:08 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: we can take the decision to include or not [9:48:21 AM] Ramiro Vergara: now i have a FR related comment that has to do with that victor [9:48:43 AM] Ramiro Vergara: the items on the FR should be included in that analysis [9:49:21 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and if they are approved they should be posted as FR requiring development/funding [9:49:46 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 3.- based in this feature list we can build the roadmap [9:50:11 AM] Mario Calderón: to name a few functionalities I know are relatively easy to integratte: OFB: Ramiro's functionalities, e-vevolution( Smart Browser to name one), Adaxa Recursive Deletion of Entities (e.g. Orders). Good for DB clearing. Print Format copy Alert on Field-input (one Message). Defined in BP Report cube Graphics on one window Payment-Allocation improvements Hashed-Password (in User-Window) Initial Client Setup (including. tacx configuration) Metas: - windows improvemnts with web services to name just a few [9:50:27 AM] Michael Judd: is there a template to assess the FR from a technical and function perspective? I beleive it was proposed for the FT/TT to review each FR? [9:51:06 AM] Mario Calderón: I think there is not a template Mike, just a description of how to document it [9:51:19 AM] Michael Judd: ok [9:51:20 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 4.-when the we include the new features then we need create de documentation and example for new fuctionality and release the new versión [9:51:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: some of those FR may be funded by ADeV or other entities [9:52:06 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: this should be include in the wiki page documentation that was made to support the feature [9:52:40 AM] Mario Calderón: so , concrete suggestions to vote? [9:52:43 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: http://www.adempiere.com/Category:Feature_Request_-_In_Progress [9:52:48 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: here exit a example [9:53:00 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok, in summary the acll for functionality should explain the points victor is raising [9:53:04 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so I think that now we need cordinate the implementor and inlude all improves [9:53:20 AM] Ramiro Vergara: let me wrap up victor [9:53:40 AM] Ramiro Vergara: victor? [9:53:46 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so in this moment I think that best way to get new fuctionality or improves is from implementors , ADAXA, Metas, e-Evolution, OFB, etc [9:53:54 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [9:53:55 AM] Ramiro Vergara: let me wrap up [9:54:46 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3.8 will be a release mostly focused on functionality [9:55:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: FT/TT will write a "Call for Functionaly enhancements" in the forums [9:55:52 AM] Ramiro Vergara: in the call we will explain the subsequent activities required to get the enhancements to the trunk [9:56:14 AM] Ramiro Vergara: do we agree with this summary? [9:56:20 AM] Ramiro Vergara: votes pplease [9:56:30 AM] Sarca, Teo: +1 [9:56:31 AM] Karsten Thiemann: yes +1 [9:56:33 AM] Mario Calderón: +1 from my side [9:56:43 AM] Michael Judd: (y) +1 [9:56:56 AM] Ramiro Vergara: +1 [9:57:09 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Victor? [9:57:09 AM] Mario Calderón: who will be in charge of issuing the call and of maintaning the page? [9:57:11 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: why 3.8 [9:57:18 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: what will be 3.7 [9:57:30 AM] Michael Judd: or what about 4.0 ? [9:57:36 AM] Michael McKay: Hi Guys - happy new year. +1 on the summary [9:57:40 AM] Karsten Thiemann: victor - we already have 3.7 [9:57:46 AM] Mario Calderón: hi Mike! same to you [9:57:49 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3.7 is released victor [9:58:04 AM] Karsten Thiemann: you did it :) [9:58:13 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: ok the the next version will be a big version [9:58:16 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and 4.0 , IMHO, should be reserved for something even bigger [9:58:26 AM] Ramiro Vergara: such as architectural changes [9:58:40 AM] Karsten Thiemann: what about 20.12 ;) [9:58:51 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Mayan release? [9:58:53 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I told about the 3.7.1,2,3,4 [9:58:55 AM] Karsten Thiemann: I think 3.8 is fine [9:58:58 AM] Mario Calderón: so, this release would be 3.8? Or what do you suggest victor? [9:59:07 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: but if we then can release 3.8 is ok for me [9:59:12 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: nop problem [9:59:20 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: +1 [9:59:23 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [9:59:27 AM] Ramiro Vergara: approved [9:59:32 AM] Karsten Thiemann: I think the number is not the most important thing.. [9:59:38 AM] Ramiro Vergara: a candidate to write the call? [10:00:13 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Victor? [10:00:44 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i suggest Victor [10:00:46 AM] Ramiro Vergara: :) [10:01:30 AM] Colin Rooney: I think victors proposal might have merit. in that ... [10:01:48 AM] Mario Calderón: +1 [10:01:53 AM] Colin Rooney: the 3.8 would be a typical big bang approach - which is great when you have resources [10:02:08 AM] Ramiro Vergara: no problem [10:02:13 AM] Colin Rooney: but you might consider a more agile approach whjich is all the fashion now :) [10:02:46 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 3.7.1, 2, 3, 4 and at the end when stable 3.8 [10:02:56 AM] Colin Rooney: you create your backlog and every few weeks realease a 3,71, 3.7.2, 3.7.3 etc [10:02:58 AM] Ramiro Vergara: that is fine [10:02:59 AM] Colin Rooney: as beta [10:03:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: Victor can explain that [10:03:20 AM] Colin Rooney: then 3.8 would be the move from beta to live of a bunch of beta funtionality [10:03:28 AM] Colin Rooney: tha tway you get your big bang release [10:03:30 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [10:03:33 AM] Michael McKay: (Stepping away - back in 30 minutes. Will catch up on return.) [10:03:38 AM] Ramiro Vergara: lets move on if we may [10:03:43 AM] Colin Rooney: plus you have a lighter more agile and frequent release stratgey [10:03:55 AM] Colin Rooney: which is how I understood from Victor? [10:04:00 AM] Mario Calderón: bye Mike [10:04:25 AM] Michael Judd: do we have resources to do more frequent releases ? i.e. monthly ? [10:04:54 AM] Colin Rooney: well it's just the latest branch with some specific NEW functionality added [10:05:08 AM] Colin Rooney: it might be 1 new functionality - or more than 1 but not many [10:05:13 AM] Colin Rooney: ? [10:05:20 AM] Ramiro Vergara: agree [10:05:38 AM] Colin Rooney: the whole agile idea is for it to be light in terms of resource requirements [10:05:48 AM] Mario Calderón: @Mike: I don't think we can do monthly releases right now, due to lack of resources. [10:06:01 AM] Colin Rooney: no problem - just a thought [10:06:17 AM] Ramiro Vergara: but we will go agile 3.7.1, 2 etc as suggested by victor and colin [10:06:19 AM] Karsten Thiemann: @Michael - no [10:06:57 AM] Mario Calderón: I think we can try to move more community members than last time, by being more active asking [10:07:29 AM] Ramiro Vergara: besides that we will expect more help from implementors in this process [10:07:47 AM] Mario Calderón: @Ramiro: right [10:07:54 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [10:08:18 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i believe we can move on to 2. Feature request discussion [10:08:58 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i believe we should integrate how to handle FR into this idea of functionality enhancements we are discussing today [10:09:13 AM] Ramiro Vergara: the FR should be reviewed by FT [10:09:30 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and then listed as FR waiting for sponsoring [10:10:04 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and we should talk to ADeV or others to look for funding/help on getting those FR done [10:10:20 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: now Teo and me propouse switch from sf trcker to jira [10:10:33 AM] Karsten Thiemann: @Ramiro: I don't think that we always need a special sponsoring. If the code and the documentation is good we can just integrate them - right? [10:11:00 AM] Ramiro Vergara: @Karten, that is why i said sponsoring/help [10:11:04 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I think that it is ok , because jira allow show the automatic roadmap based in the traker open [10:11:34 AM] Mario Calderón: as I seem for this time the sponsoring would be the companies supplying the functionality! ;) [10:11:59 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: the I think that we need work in migrate the old sf tracker to jira [10:12:03 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: @Karsten: agree. but a special state "looking for sponsoring" is imho also a good idea. e.g. philip gosweiler made an improvement regarding postal, but it's only do for swing right now... [10:12:04 AM] Ramiro Vergara: advantage is that community members see a clear procedure to add / deny those FR and then get them done supported by FT/TT [10:12:13 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: and the road map will show in automatic [10:12:23 AM] Mario Calderón: what is this about Jira Victor, can you explain how it would replace the actual way? [10:13:52 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: jira is a tracker system [10:14:12 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: where we would report the features and bug tracker [10:15:25 AM] Mario Calderón: ..and you suggest to switch to Jira with the new release? [10:15:45 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: yes I think it is good [10:16:17 AM] Mario Calderón: would you mention and explain it on the post? [10:16:31 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: Teo install jira [10:16:51 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: installed jira [10:17:19 AM] Mario Calderón: so as I understand, we should vote for switching to Jira now? [10:17:36 AM] Ramiro Vergara: and FR management as discussed.... [10:17:39 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: and ask the Atlassian for license [10:17:59 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: the give a license because we work with open source proyect [10:18:09 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: then teo [10:18:32 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: we might use jira to management the release, roadmap , trackers [10:18:51 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: this is a good example based in spring envirotment developement [10:18:53 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: https://jira.springsource.org/browse/SPR [10:19:19 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: he are https://jira.springsource.org/browse/SPR#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aroadmap-panel [10:19:27 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: road map create based on tracker [10:19:38 AM] Mario Calderón: @Ramiro: wrap up and vote? [10:19:47 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [10:20:01 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2 votes please [10:20:45 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2.a approved FR Managements as discussed above (FT/TT aactive in getting sponsoring and getting FR done) [10:21:01 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2. move from SF to JJira for tracker management [10:21:06 AM] Ramiro Vergara: sorry [10:21:09 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2.b [10:21:22 AM] Ramiro Vergara: votes please [10:21:28 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2.a and 2.b [10:21:46 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: 2.c we need voluters to migrate of old tracker from sf to jira tracker [10:21:48 AM] Mario Calderón: 2a: +1 2b: +1 [10:22:10 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: this should be a good work and allow define a list active the tracker list [10:22:28 AM] Ramiro Vergara: 2.a +1 ; 2.b +1 [10:22:43 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: because the current sf list now is incomplete or not updated [10:22:57 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I not know if all open issue are replicate and are active [10:22:58 AM] Karsten Thiemann: both +1 (and sorry but I got to go now) [10:23:06 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: [17:08:20] Victor Perez Juarez: 2.c we need voluters to migrate of old tracker from sf to jira tracker <<< can't we do this step-by-step? i mean, make sure that there are no new trackers in SF, and create a jira-tracker for an SF-tracker, whener we touch an SF-tracker? [10:23:13 AM] Mario Calderón: dear all, I have to leave right now. I will publish the minutes and the resume today, after consultation with the moderator. [10:23:17 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: 2.{a,b} +1 [10:23:31 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: +1 for all points [10:23:32 AM] Mark Ostermann: +1 fror both (a+b) [10:23:33 AM] Mario Calderón: Tobi, linear algebra!! [10:23:42 AM] Ramiro Vergara: we are done mario anyway [10:23:44 AM] Michael Judd: 2a+b (y) +1 [10:24:06 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: 2.[^c-z]+ ;-) [10:24:33 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: @Tobias , I think that we need now activate jira for new issues [10:24:39 AM] Mario Calderón: this is a regular expression... [10:24:47 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok [10:24:56 AM] Ramiro Vergara: i believe the 3 proposal are approved [10:25:01 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: but anyway we need clean current tracker list, because I think not are update [10:25:05 AM] Ramiro Vergara: mario will write minutes, i will help [10:25:06 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: @Victor: ok [10:25:15 AM] Ramiro Vergara: victor will write call, i will translate [10:25:20 AM] Michael Judd: what's the process for cleaning? Does it require a line by line analysis ? [10:25:26 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: it have not control [10:25:38 AM] Sarca, Teo: +1 [10:26:09 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: so we can take as excuse to clean the tracker list :-) [10:26:34 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: @Mike I think that is simple [10:27:40 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: we need review the comment tracker and validate if this can be replicate , if this is replicate then we can create the tracker new in jira , and copy the comments and adds new comment from your test [10:28:14 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: we need give the priority issue , this way we should include the fix for next release if is severe issue [10:29:01 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: when we create the new jira tracker we can close the sf tracker and add the url for jira tracker link [10:29:04 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: it is my idea [10:29:15 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: but anyother good idea is welcome [10:29:45 AM] Michael Judd: ok - need to head out but I understand and would like to help. I think we could define the severity levels first before assessing the issues in the new jira. [10:29:57 AM] Michael Judd: will be back a little later in case the discussion continues [10:30:18 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: I would document the step in a wiki [10:30:36 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: and make reference some videos that explaint the use the jira [10:30:43 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: this way other can following [10:30:54 AM] Ramiro Vergara: ok, i believe we can close the formal meeting here [10:30:59 AM] Ramiro Vergara: thanks to all [10:32:05 AM] Victor Perez Juarez: Ramiro can please give a summary please [10:33:16 AM] Mark Ostermann: thanks [10:33:29 AM] Colin Rooney: bye all [10:33:43 AM] Mark Ostermann: bye. cu [10:34:23 AM] Sarca, Teo: bye bye [10:42:43 AM] Tobias Schoeneberg: bye [10:53:42 AM] Michael Judd: bye